I don’t know how to ask this without sounding judgemental, but I hope you take it as a serious question, not an attack. We all agree that rape is horrible and I’m glad that there’s a campaign to address how wrong society’s mentality is about it. Yet you have said you have rape fantasies. I know it’s a “fantasy” in an environment of trust and consent, but why would you, being so outspoken about this issue, fantasize with something as rape? I’m just trying to understand the logic behind it.

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thinkivykink:

So what you’re basically telling me is I’m a hypocrite for being outspoken about rape when, in fact, I fantasize about and engage in consensual nonconsent. What I love about messages like this is you’re really not trying to get the logic behind it at all, because people far more articulate and established than I have certainly written quite a bit on the subject. What you’re trying to do is either make me feel guilty or corner me into a “gotcha” to try to take away my credibility. Or you’re trying to reveal some underlying Daddy issue or make me admit whether or not I’ve been raped so you can pathologize me. 

Let me start by saying that we live in a society where some of our most admired characters on television and in movies are drug lords, murderers and criminals. I highly doubt you would ever message someone who enjoyed The Godfather but who thought murder was unacceptable with this sort of message. I highly doubt you would accuse a teacher who would report statutory rape in a heartbeat but teaches Romeo and Juliet of being a hypocrite.

I like the term lived messiness. I am aware of my sexuality, I can problematize it, but I’m not going to crucify myself for it. Saying a feminist is a bad feminist for enjoying something is pretty damn anti-feminist.

It’s funny that you say “I know it’s a ‘fantasy’ in an environment of trust and consent” and still ask this question. Because, once again, you’re not really even asking a question here. If you acknowledge that I am behaving in an environment of trust an consent, how can you even call it rape? What I do in the privacy of my bedroom is so completely divorced from the act of rape it isn’t even funny. I don’t even call it a rape fantasy anymore, I call it consensual non-consent. 

Rape is not a sexual act as much as it is an act of violence, power and control. Why am I so outspoken about this issue? Because it’s wrong and it’s horrible and it’s PREVENTABLE and it’s happened to entirely too many people.

Consensual non-consent is something that I do with a partner that I trust and respect, who reciprocates those feelings. While rape is an act that attempts to rid the body of autonomy, I feel that consensual non-consent only confirms my autonomy over my body by allowing me to grant my partner the privilege of being rough with it. (And on the subject of roughness? I love it. I love the adrenaline.) While rape is an act of betrayal, consensual non-consent is an act of trust. And while rape is about misinformed entitlement, consensual non-consent is about giving someone the privilege to something. 

So, I could sit here and castigate myself and call myself a contradiction. Which is kind of exactly what the patriarchy wants me to do. Or I could continue to fight for the destruction of rape culture and the patriarchy while understanding the lived messiness of my sex life. My libido works a certain way, and I’m not going to suddenly drop this important cause just because I like my sex a little rough.

Oh, and by the way? “I don’t know how to ask this without sounding judgmental” falls under the same category of phrases like “I’m not trying to be racist/sexist/rude but…” 

nya nya further trigger warning for discussion of rape and shit

Also to be noted: Ivy does not engage in her consensual non consent shit in a gross ass way that puts survivors in danger. She’s very clearly like “hey this was consensual” “hey I had a safeword” “I was good” “I had fun” “This is this kind of scene” at the begnning

I KNOW BECAUSE I REMEMBER BEING PLEASED AS SHIT WITH HER WHEN I FIRST READ A STORY INVOLVING THAT AND THOSE THINGS WERE PRESENT BECAUSE IT KEPT ME FROM BEING TRIGGERED.

Like yknow what? People who reblog pictures with rape fantasy based captions and no trigger warning? they’re kind of on my shit list. The OP probably sees those captions, the OP could be triggered by your commentary, and while the people commenting and their followers all know that it’s in fun and whatever that’s still putting survivors at risk.

There are rape survivors who like consensual non consent

I am one of them

Do you have any idea anon, how easy it is for me to stop a scene where the consent lines have been hammered out before hand and discussed and I’m with a partner I trust? It takes LITERALLY one word. And before I GET to that word my partner will check in with me and take breaks and let me breathe. This is so far removed from what I experienced by being rape they aren’t even in the same category.

There is a HUGE amount of therapy and freedom in having someone I trust play about hurting me. Because unlike in my actual rape and assaults I have the freedom to fight and struggle. Because unlike when I was actually raped the moment I even make a face that’s not quite right there’s a pause where I’m kissed gently and asked if everythings okay. Because the words used are cleared with me before they’re uttered. 

Now, I’m not saying you should be 100% cool with rape play because WOW no that’s definitely not a thing. But you certainly shouldn’t come at people who both enjoy the idea of consensual non consent AND ALSO ARGUE ABOUT RAPE CULTURE

If Ivy or anyone else was like “yeah i’m into it and all those dumb whores who scream rape are obvi into it to” PLEASE. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TEAR THAT PERSON A NEW ASSHOLE

But you’ve gotta be kidding me with this

Remember how I said there were people with more articulate ways of explaining this? 

Bright is one of them.

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